Inner circle member of TB Joshua Watch speaks #1


In the past week we received an email from someone who claimed to be part of the inner circle of TB Joshua Watch and found it necessary to publish it as it could shed some light into the grey areas that shroud TB Joshua watch in mystery.

Please note that the opinions expressed here are purely those of the writer;
*Greg’s name has also been changed to protect his identity*

From:Greg’s
To:watchprophettbjoshua@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, 5 November, 2011 9:37:55
Subject: Re: TB Joishua lured me into following them from the ministry of “TB Joshua”

I’m filled with rank fear as I write this, knowing what it would mean if I am discovered, but I choose to do it all the same as a way to right my wrongs because my conscience hurts with each deception TB Joshua watch orchestrate and publish with my input. I perfectly understand if many would judge me and ask why i’m still with them even after realising that they’re all about lies and deceit, because they wouldn’t understand the conditions under which they deceived and coerced me to join their hateful group against my conscience, in the most serpentine manner I never thought possible, now its difficult for me to just step out as I fear what would become of me, they’ve become a gang or cult with a web of intrigues defining their operations. I know I myself pledged allegiance to them, but that was because I
thought they were out to tell the truth about TB Joshua. But now its clear to me that its otherwise and I feel remorseful that i’m betraying innocent blood. still i’m looking for just the perfect opportunity to quit that would guarantee my safety and not put me in jeopardy. I know with this post they’ll be on their guard even more. But its a risk i’m willing to take to satisfy my conscience,  So here goes the story of my Scoan beginnings and involvement with TB Joshua watch.


My Scoan beginnings and involvement with TB Joshua watch:

For nearly 5 years, I have been a committed member of The Synagogue Church of All Nations, in the UK, and I have learnt so many things during this Journey of faith. About
10 -12 months ago, my ‘trusted’ shepherds decided to leave the church, and also lured me and several others into following them from the ministry- to Join them in pursuance of their claim about the administration of the ministry and certain ‘concerns’ about the General Overseer of the ministry.

No sooner than the month I joined their campaign with a blog called TB JOSHUA WATCH did I notice that there was something sinister about their  ‘allegations’ against the ministry of which they had been part for some years. They claimed to be advocating the truth, but in
reality were making all sorts of reckless statements about the ministry, this made me feel really uneasy but I was already in, and so as not to draw attention to myself, I also followed suite.

It is quite disturbing for me that this ‘group’ who ‘decamped’ from the ministry, taking a several others with them (including me), dubbed themselves a kind of ‘watchdog’ over the ministry and instigating all sorts of absurdities, in all shades and patterns. This has
consequently proved that we should only trust God, but never trust any human being, because they can be what we call ‘Here today, Gone tomorrow trustees’. It is still very hard for me to come to terms with the stark reality, that these people who were once flag bearers of Christ under the banner of this ministry suddenly turned themselves into ‘investigative journalists and bloggers’ of disrepute, who are biting the hands and fingers that once fed and cared for them!

In the main, I do really find this issue quite disturbing, speaking as someone privy to both sides, with a clear benefit of hindsight, the de-campers were once standing to condemn the erstwhile ex- followers of the ministry, who went about blackmailing the same ministry.
The main contention here and their ultimate aim is still unclear to me, perhaps I’ll uncover this in the long run, but one thing is sure that the Truth is constant, no matter for how long the adversaries toil day and night, if it is all for selfish, classic and material reasons, they will surely come to nought. Beware, what saddens me more is that there are several others like me, deceived into such a “judas ministry”.

I do implore readers to discountenance the and disregard the comments and postings on this TB JOSHUA WATCH blog, because it is disgracefully short of taste and integrity, lacks credibility on all fronts, and should really engage themselves in building the society for Christ rather than acting and colluding with the ‘children of perdition’ to sabotage His works. The wise takes a hint and acts on it !

[Note from the editor: A point worthy of note here in Greg’s story is that he is communicating the identity of  the main authors of TB Joshua watch as one time evangelists at the Scoan uk. While we are yet to explicitly declare them as the people behind TB Joshua watch till we have unmistakable proof.

We intend to continue our investigations on these opinions alongside
other issues and keep you updated.

PART 2 OF Greg’s story will be posted tomorrow 8th November 2011.

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Ex-Disciples Forms a Bloc Against TB Joshua; – The Price of Mentorship or Nemesis?


We at Watch Prophet TB Joshua believe that the first to present his case will always seem right until  another comes and questions him. It is patience in asking the right questions that will force either probity or deception to reveal itself where present. But whether true or false, what we stoutly represent is a refusal to accept a one sided story like other partisan sites and whatever stance you may have taken on this controversial prophet, either as a supporter or critic, it still remains unequivocally clear that most of the stories circulating the internet that are mitigating against this prophet at most came from those who were once his ardent front-line followers, aside from raising a red-flag by giving quite some weight to their testimonies, and being a bothersome thorn in the flesh of pro-Scoan folks, it also further demystifies the personality of TB Joshua In the context of him still having an increasing local and international follower-ship even with just about enough defaming material to quickly set people on their heels away from him. A quick search on Google will reveal various testimonies by these ex-disciples of TB Joshua’s ministry, putting forward quite vehemently, debasing claims of sexual abuse and ill- treatment allegedly suffered at his hands, and this was well complemented with further questions in animosity of the legitimacy of the very miracles that seemed to have prompted them to follow TB Joshua in the first place. We at watchprophettbjoshua  would never have contested the “truthfulness” of these allegations if the word “betrayal” never existed, that is, the possibility of all these claims of abuse being falsified and untrue just as some others hold that it is true, is what qualifies it as a debatable issue, for at least those who have never lived within the Scoan premises.

It is however quite surprising that we hardly ever hear stories like this about other ministers or pastors, and the reason most likely, as our findings report is his peculiar style of training followers as disciples, different from the modern conventional methods. Quite a number of ministries have a former school for disciples who desire to be trained for ministerial work, with a process for enrollment, tuition for training, a well defined course outline in discipleship training and finally a certificate issued proving that they met the required standards during their training, but TB Joshua’s methods seem very far from this in a peculiar sort of way, apart from having his imposing edifice at the SCOAN, Lagos Nigeria receiving and playing host to thousands of pilgrims from across the world, it also houses men and women from different countries, of different ages and works of Life who have left their countries, homes, Jobs and others to follow this man as disciples, with him bearing the full responsibility for their upkeep. The prophet Himself is said to live in the same compound with his disciples and in an interview with Evelyn Joshua, TB Joshua’s wife – they are there for an indefinite period of time, in her words she said “its a lifelong training” now we know that the implications of this would be at first unprecedented, but now the results are definitely crystallizing out clearly – with all the defaming allegations circumventing the internet as well as the advent of the “wise men” who seem to be the evidence of those who have being fully trained.

Having lived with the prophet for years, a lot of these disciples would definitely know more about the inner workings of the ministry, so without asking questions and getting a different account from other ex-disciples, the populace would have no choice but to believe them, without getting to hear the other side of the story  – So the purpose of this post is to bring into debate the allegations made against TB Joshua by certain ex-disciples, of which several similar ones exist, carefully considering their possibility of occurrence whilst subjecting them to sound reasoning and if possible come to a logical conclusion.

The first we shall consider with an excerpt from an anti-scoan website  is “The story of Emma“,  A Scoan ex-disciple who had supposedly dedicated ten years of her Life to Scoan,  her claim of  abuse and ill treatment is stated below.

I’m very grateful to have found this site. I personally have been affected by TB Joshua and the SCOAN in a most negative way. I’m eternally grateful to Jesus for giving me a second chance when I was so deeply deceived. Since leaving SCOAN I have discovered a completely different side to God – an intimate relationship with Him with no human mediator, and total forgiveness without your past mistakes being used to break you down.
I plan on sharing my 10 year experience of being a disciple in increments as I have the strength to do so. I prefer to do it anonymously for my own safety and that of my family. I left about a year ago and am still coming to grips with the reality that SCOAN was a cult. It was a big shock when I realised that what I’d given my life to and built my future upon is nothing but a cult. I was horrified to find that the isolated communal lifestyle, denial of privacy, late night meetings, sleep deprivation, reporting, character breaking disciple meetings and so on, occur in most cults and have nothing to do with the Holy Spirit’s leading of TB Joshua as I once believed. I read about cults like Mormonism, Jehovah’s witness, Scientology, The twelve tribes, Indian guru cults, etc and saw striking similarities. They also record your confession and use it to silence you should you later leave like what happened to Bisola Johnson in Beware of Blasphemers. They also encourage that you sell your possessions and give it to their leaders, live in community and give all decision making authority to the leader. They also have meetings of character assassination, ie, monitoring, reporting and correction as SCOAN calls it. They also live in “compounds”, communal living where access to information is controlled, the leader’s videos / teachings are continually played to you and a false reality “euphoria” is created with no opportunity to question.
The hardest thing for me to come to terms with is the fact that I may never see my loved ones (brothers and sisters as they’re called in SCOAN) again. I sometimes feel guilty as I “move on with my life”, that I’m leaving so many sincere, but sincerely deceived people behind and it seems as if there is not much I can do to open their eyes. Since I had completely cut off from my family and friends – it now seems very strange to reconnect with them after 10 long years. So many things have changed but in some ways, I am exactly where I started before I joined SCOAN – I have no qualifications, no job reference, no proof of what I’ve done with my life. I’m only beginning to see the effects of many years of sexual and emotional abuse I received from TB Joshua. But I am determined more than ever to trust in God alone, deal with my past in His strength and become what He made me to be.

For the anti-scoan folks who subscribe to her story, what are your strong reasons for believing what you never witnessed about  a Prophet of renown?

And for the pro -Scoan folks why would you refuse to believe her story?, what in your opinion could she possibly gain by lying?

Love to hear your thoughts in the comments…!

The Church HIV prayer cure claim ’cause three deaths’ is not from SCOAN London


BBC REPORT

IN DEFENCE OF SCOAN

Our attention has been drawn to a BBC report on healing practices in churches across London. It highlighted the deaths of three sufferers of HIV who refused to take in their medication because they believed they had been healed by their pastors.The report never said anything damning about the Synagogue (SCOAN).

It never linked the three deaths to Synagogue as the detractors of T.B Joshua “TB JOSHUA” would like us to believe. In SCOAN a doctor’s report is requested before anyone is arraigned for prayer and healing. After prayer and healing the patients are made to go back for a thorough check with their doctor’s to find out whether they have been healed or otherwise. This has been the procedure in SCOAN since its inception.

Whilst the SCOAN believe in divine healing, they also make sure mandatory hospital checks are applied to ascertain the truth of healing. The bible is not a historical document and it is alive with healing and miracles. It is God’s word made alive and when applied works. TB  Joshua testifies to knowing  the healer and He is Christ, the King.

The assertion of Francis Kaikumba of African Health Policy Network (AHPN) that, ‘SCOAN may be one of those involved in the practices’ is unsustainable in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. “This is happening through a number of churches. We’re hearing about more cases of this,” AHPN chief Francis Kaikumba said. AHPN said it believed the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN), which has UK headquarters in Southwark, south London, may be one of those involved in such practices. Francis Kaikumba Should note the SCOAN never asked anyone to stop their medication.

“It’s incredibly worrying to hear that individuals have been giving out advice about HIV treatments which is putting lives at risk. We work closely with churches across the UK, raising awareness of HIV and encouraging people to get tested and start treatment at the earliest possible stage, and we urge anyone living with HIV to continue the treatments prescribed by their health professionals.”

THIS ADVICE IS NOT FROM THE SCOAN

The BBC report has been seized upon by a group of noted former members of SCOAN to peddle lies and discredit the church. We know they are behind this orchestration to tear apart the Church and cause disaffection for it in the eyes of the public but their actions will come to naught. The church is firmly rooted in Christ and no amount of attacks would distract it from its agenda of reaching out and saving lost souls.”

We are trying to obtain permission from some of those we know have received their healing through the SCOAN to publish shortly.

Did TB Joshua predict the London Riots? Review #1


In the last couple of months, UK experienced violent riots and looting in most of the major cities. As with most major news event; it was prophesied on Sunday two weeks before and repeated on the following Sunday a week before it happened by Prophet TB Joshua of the SCOAN.

Emmanuel TV does broadcast all the live services of the SCOAN and watched by millions all over the world. The question is what gives TB Joshua the confidence to prophesy to the world openly if not GOD?

Some of the points raised by anti SCOAN group “TB Joshua Watch” are reviewed below.

  1. There will be a fire on a very large establishment
  2. Ans. Out of all the places fire broke out during the riot, the Sony Center was the biggest establishment.
  3. The name of the place begins with “EN”
  4. Ans. TB Joshua Watch provided this link “Wikipedia lists 49 places in the United Kingdom beginning with EN” Its true there are 49 places in the UK beginning with the letters “EN” but they don’t have large establishment except the Sony Center, located at Enfield which starts with “EN”. There have been many times where, TB Joshua had called someone with a particular problem to come out during the SCOAN live services and more than one person comes out, but God whom revealed it to him is able clarify whom the prophecy concern by mentioning their names or further revealing something about the person no one else knew. To see some of this cases click here.
  5. Fire will be gushing out
  6. Ans. We all saw the fire at the lasted for days
  7. He sees a multi-storied building
  8. Ans. The Sony Center may looks like a big warehouse from the outside, but has 2 floors on one side 3 on the other so using the word “a multi-storied building” is not wrong.
  9. The fire will be in a place where people gather, and people buy and sell
  10. Ans. Truly the Sony Center is distributers go to buy and sell.
  11. The fire disaster will cost millions of pounds
  12. Ans. The damaged caused at the Sony Center cost millions.

LONDON: Damage caused by riots in London and other British cities this week will cost more than 200 million pounds ($323 million), the Association of British Insurers said, doubling its previous claims estimate. 

The increase came as British Prime Minister David Cameron said an 1886 law that allows insurers to pass on some of the cost of riot-related claims to the police will apply, with the government ready to make up any funding shortfall. “The government will ensure the police have the funds they need to meet the cost of any legitimate claims,” Cameron said in parliament, adding that the deadline for filing claims would be extended to 42 days from 14. Under the Riots (Damages) Act, uninsured businesses and households, as well as insurers facing riot-related claims from their customers, can seek partial compensation from the police. The legislation only covers property damage, with insurers retaining liability for business interruption costs, which can often exceed the cost of physical repairs. Police forces typically take out insurance against claims under the Act, passing some of the costs back onto insurers. RSA, Britain’s biggest commercial insurer, said it would support the compensation scheme by making its claims and actuarial experts available.  Source:  http://www.arabnews.com/economy/article487202.ece

If BBC, SKY TV, CNN or the British Government had picked the words of the Prophet TB Joshua:- There will be a fire on a very large establishment, The name of the place begins with “EN” they could have traced it to the Sony Center and saved huge sum of money the police had to pay out

Another aspect rose by this backyard crooks was

  1. “As we can see, the veracity of the prophecy is seriously questionable, but it can’t be denied that some of the details do seem to match recent events. What are we to make of this?” If they have said; “But it can’t be denied that some of the details do seem to match recent events” Why then did they publish the story “TB Joshua predict the London Riots” in the first place?
  2. “The prediction focused on the destruction of a building owned by the multinational company Sony, why focus on this instead of the many small family businesses destroyed by the fires? From his teachings l have head so many times explained that what God shows he says.
  3. “This interpretation is not one SCOAN offers through the video, but even if this was the case, what is the need to show off about it afterwards”? All TB Joshua prophecies are shown live during the SCOAN services.

Please watch Emmanuel.tv to see things for yourselves.