Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 3


Editors Note: After we published part one of our stories Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 1 & 2    Since we started off we have received quite a number of responses from SCOAN supporters making an attempt to uncover the identities of the authors of TB Joshua watch,  ( our apologies to the  SCOAN supporters whose articles we didn’t publish, a lot of them were off the top inferring stuff rather than stating obvious facts with right reasoning) of the lot we received, only this  article by Raphael who also got in touch with us recently comes across as more insightful as he explicitly gives an account of the thought process that led to his investigation and the proof backing his opinion on the authors of  TB Joshua watch. We deemed it necessary to publish his article as it could vividly shed some light on the secret identities behind TB Joshua watch, as well as satisfy the curiosity of SCOAN supporters. Please note that the opinions stated here are those of the writer.***some names have also been removed for privacy concerns*** 

BELOW IS AN EMAIL SENT TO US

From:     ONLINE BANKING <xxxxxx.amarteyxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com>
Reply-to:   <xxxxxx.amarteyxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com> 
Subject:     YOUR URGENT RESPONSE NEEDED.

FROM MR. E AMARTEY

Greetings from Ghana!

Before I introduce myself, I wish to inform you that this letter is not a hoax mail and I urge you to treat it serious. This letter must come to you as a big surprise, but I believe it is only a day that people meet and become great friends and business partners.

My name is Mr. E Amartey, the present branch Manager of a bank here in Ghana. I write you this proposal in good faith, believing that I can trust you with the information I am about to reveal to you. Like I said, I have a transaction that will benefit both of us, as your assistance is required as a foreigner. I use to head the Accounts department in my bank head office, but last December I was asked to take position of a Manager of our branch in Kumasi who passed on, so that was how I became the present Manager and discovered a fortune. As I resumed duty, I discovered an account with total sum of $12,500,000 million that has not been operated on for the past 4 years. From my investigation, I found out that this account belongs to one Late Mr. ANDREAS SCHRANNER a German great industrialist and a resident of Munich, who unfortunately lost his life along with his entire famillies in the plane crash of CONCORDE AIRLINE which crashed on 25th JULY, 2000.

The account is escrow call account, a secret type of account in my bank and no other person knows about this account or any thing concerning it, the account has no other beneficiary. I have kept a close monitoring of the account since then and nobody has come forward to ask about the money as next of kin to the late Mr. Andreas Schranner, meaning that no one is aware of the account.

I cannot directly take out this money without the help of a foreigner and that is why I am contacting you for an assistance to claim the funds and share it with me. As the Manager of my bank branch, I have the power to influence the release of the funds to any foreigner that comes up as the next of kin to the account, with the correct information concerning the account, which I shall give you.

I am seeking your co-operation to present you as the next of kin to the account, so that my bank head quarters will release the funds to you. There is practically no risk involved, the transaction will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of law.  If you accept to work with me, I want you to state how you wish us to share the funds in percentage, so that both parties will be satisfied. Contact me as soon as you receive this message if you feel we can work together, so we can go over the details.

Thanking you in advance and May God blesses you. Please, treat with utmost confidentiality. You can call me on +233xxxxxxxxx. I wait your urgent response.
<xxxxxx.amarteyxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com>

Regards,

Mr. E Amartey.

We have been given a name of a former ex-disciple we are trying to trace, we understand has Eddie Amartey’s photo. Once we are able to get it we will publish it with some information that will shock you.

Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 2


PLEASE READ Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 1 BEFORE PART 2

WTBJ: Please can you tell us how did the Ghana crusade started? – Please we edge you to be calm. We see that you don’t want to hear the name Amartey.

Ans: When the group was first formed in the Church, it was called Global Group, now Ecowas Group, because It’s member were mostly from West Africa especially Ghana and that’s when l was nominated as the group coordinator. There were 5 Ghanaians under TB Joshua at the time as disciples under training. They were the one that encouraged us to organise the Ghana Crusade “GHANA FOR CHRIST” 1997, we as group started contributing money towards the Crusade, we even held night vigil every Friday. When we thought we’ve got enough money to cover the crusade we informed TB Joshua of what we intended to do. He was so happy he asked us to nominate someone from the group to go to Ghana in search of good venue in Accra for the crusade. One Mr. Eric was chosen, so he left for Ghana. 9 days later Mr. Eric came back with names of 4 venues – BLACK STAR SQURE, TRADE FAIR CENTER, and ELWAK STADIUM & KANESHI SPORT COMPLEX.

The one we could afford with the money we had was the Trade Fair Center. We had to agree on a date and pay for the venue; we chose a day in March and stated making posters, that’s when PFN sent to GPC not to accept TB Joshua in Ghana calling all sorts of names.

Faith Cometh published Nana Antoh account on this issue click Here. To save you time we extracted of what he said below.

FC: When did you first come to know about the SCOAN?

Rev. Antoh: In 1997, I was the administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal Council. At that time, the man of God wanted to come to Ghana for a crusade and the Ghana Pentecostal Council were asked to host him. As of then, nobody knew him in Ghana. I had been a pastor for several years but I never heard the name T.B. Joshua. When he said he wanted to come to Ghana some Nigerian churches sent their pastors to Ghana to ask our council not to accept him because they said he was an occultist. So, at the beginning, we were very lackadaisical in accepting him.

Also a few Nigerian ministers had come to swindle the council before; so we had a very negative impression about Nigerian ministers. Now his own countrymen were coming to tell us: “Don’t accept that man; he is an occultist”. The man of God sent another group to us, saying that he was ready to pay for four pastors from the council to come to the SCOAN, stay for any number of days to see for themselves. So, some senior pastors were chosen and stayed there for five days. When they came back to Ghana, they said: “Listen, this is from God; let us accept the man!” Some of us were arguing: “How can you use only four days to examine the man?” The council came together and had a vote and those who voted for the man of God to come to Ghana won. So, the man of God came to Ghana.

Jane Amartey

We had to shift the date forward. On Sunday March 16th 1997 Jane Amartey brought a man she introduced as her husband Mr. Edmund Nii Ayiku Amartey, we all welcomed him. After the Church service that that day Mr Eric came forward to give the feedback on the arrangement, in his words “Emmanuel, l thank God for everything, the date the group asked me to book is not available, and l thinks we need to make provision for TV advert so why don’t me move the date ahead. I also discover that to get a big crowed we need to involve the Ghana Pentecostal Council. They will be the one to distribute the posters and the banners among the Churches in Ghana. But there is a small problem, l have been to the GPC and it seems to be a problem from Pastor here Nigeria” so we had t inform TBJ who sent Mr. Ben Esien one of his Ghanaian disciple to travel to Ghana. It was at this stage we got to know how much Mr. Amartey wanted to be involved.

Watch this space for the real Amartey.

Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 1


In a previous post we made clear to our readers that Satan and his children are NOT happy with the way God is operating at the SCOAN, using Prophet TB Joshua and 5 Wise men hence, they continue to fabricate lies upon lies in attempt to damage the ministry of TB Joshua. Satan is not looking for the people who are already in his kingdom; rather he’s busy hauling those who’re in God’s kingdom into his kingdom. As it was so it is, just as Judas was used to betray Jesus, certain individuals now use online news sites to spread spiteful lies against the work of God at the SCOAN.

One of those who in recent times has spread malicious lies against the ministry of SCOAN is Mr. Eddie Amartey, who is popularly known on a TB Joshua critic Blog as “MR Terrific” he’s unarguably behind some of the most blasphemous remarks about TB Joshua on a reputed critic blog. He made so many bogus claims on that site, ascribing so many events in the ministry including TB Joshua’s Ghana Crusade to his acclaimed immense contributions and now claims to be in a good position to warn others to be wary of SCOAN. But what is the truth of Eddie Amartey’s involvement with SCOAN?  Our correspondents visited the SCOAN during the past week to conduct some investigations inclusive of Eddie Amartey’s role in SCOAN and their findings were astonishing on this unmasked imposter, read on the ensuing interview with one of the group co-ordinators and our correspondents.

WTJ:  Good day Sir, I’m Mrs. Stella woods and this is Mr. Selwyn Clark. We have been directed to you in respect of Mr. Amartey.
Ans:  My name is Mr. Charles How may I help you?

WTJ: We have come from the US in respect of the lot of rumours surrounding the ministry of the SCOAN, and were directed to you for details of  Mr. Amartey a one time member whom we understand was a member of Ecowas group you once co-ordinated

Ans:  Is it Jane Amartey of which Amartey are you referring to? Because we only know one Amartey and she is female.

WTJ:  Wow, We saw in one article in which he claims he was a member and was the one who organised the Ghana crusade in 1997

Ans:  Oh That Twat!

WTJ: Excuse me, what did you say?

Ans:  I said he is a twat, the most irresponsible person I’ve ever seen, in Fact please go, He will make me insult him.

WTJ:  So you know him?

Ans: Yes we know him.

WTJ: So he was a member and the one who made it possible for the Ghana crusade to be held in 1997

Ans: Mrs. Woods and Mr. Man, what do you want from me?

WTJ; THE TRUTH!

Ans:  First the only Amartey we know in the SCOAN HQ  is Jane Amartey, she Joined the Church late 1996 and she is the only Amartey I co-ordinated, I remember when she just joined the church, she had a problem which brought her, her womb was always coming out anytime she goes to the loo. I know her as a hair dresser who has a shop somewhere in Yaba (a place in Lagos Nigeria) and God healed her at the SCOAN. I even have her picture here, see (opens a book with her picture pasted against her name) She was the one who brought Mr. Stephen Apomnsem who was mad and walking the streets of Lagos when Jane Amartey met him and brought him to the church where he was healed. So on the issue of Amartey; he’s not the one who organised the Ghana crusade.

WTJ:  Can you please tell us then how the Ghana crusade came to be?

Ans:  When I first joined it we had four Ghanaian disciples under TB Joshua, these were the people who helped with the crusade in Ghana.

WTJ:  So you mean it’s not Amartey who started the Ghana crusade…

Watch this space for Part two of Eddie Amartey’s Deception.

TB Joshua’s Response To HIV Medication


In last days churches have been known for their pastor’s, sermons, buildings, choirs, but not as much as for God’s POWER TO HEAL THE HURTING SICK PEOPLE…While all these things are great, but sick people are suffering, healing is the glory of the church, but it’s HEALTH to the hurting sick people.

TB Joshua always says, “Man can be sick in the body and yet be a friend of God.” We all agree that sickness came because of sin, and there would be none of it in heaven. Jesus brings healing. Jesus doesn’t bring sickness yet He does use foolish things at times to accomplish His purpose, and sickness is one of them. Healing, not sickness glorifies Jesus the most.

There has always been an attack on healing ministry especially in the area of medicine. At times healing ministries will go to the extreme of rejecting and telling people to stop using medicine. There are stories of many people whom God healed without use of any medicine, so is there are stories of people who died because of refusal to use medicine. Where is the balance? Again, TB Joshua, the person that God uses mightily in healing, has said it beautifully, “Doctors Treat; Jesus Heals. God is God of nature. Medicine is natural.” He even went as far as to say that his household, and the church, and friends of ministry all, benefit from medicine.

Medicine treats natural sickness, but some sicknesses are as result of curses or even direct demonic attack. Medical science is completely powerless against spiritual forces. Medicine has been great help in curing, helping to fight natural diseases, but sicknesses that have demons behind them, only the name of Jesus, blood of Jesus, fire of Holy Ghost can overcome!!!

Healing is so needed today; it brings help to the hurting, but also, it fuels the faith of believers in the power of their God. One thing we must not forget is that miracles help some people and for others, they are stumbling block. Remember, SAME SUN THAT MELTS BUTTER, HARDENS THE CLAY…Same power of God in life of Moses, delivered Israel out of bondage, and made Pharaoh’s heart so HARD. Miracles, healing’s, and deliverances help believers with their faith but for skeptic and critic, they fuel his pride…HOW SAD

Below is the clip of the short message by TB Joshua about Healing & Medicine. Enjoy!

 

Source: Hungry Generation

T.B. JOSHUA WATCH ADMITS THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AGAINST T. B. JOHUA


After months of slander and defamation, T. B. Joshua Watch finally agrees there is no evidence to support their claim of sexual abuse charges against T.B. Joshua. This is funny considering the fact that they have heaped invectives, called him names and I am wondering why they have not rendered a formal apology to the man of God. In their latest article they said:

‘We’re not saying these allegations are definitely true – we’d have no evidence to support that claim.’

If they claim there is indeed no evidence to support their claims why are they now saying the allegations must be ‘investigated?’  If they have evidence it is incumbent upon them to provide them to the police to investigate because you cannot investigate anything without evidence.

They must for once keep their mouths shut and concentrate on building their lives instead of becoming permanent bloggers. If their aim is to destroy the man of God then they have failed in their venture.

By Raphael Ernest Grail

Inner circle member of TB Joshua Watch speaks #2


This is part 2 of Greg’s story. Follow the link to read Part 1 Inner circle member of TB Joshua Watch speaks #1

I find it imperative to add that during the time l was a member of the SCOAN UK branch, one of the young men approached them to seek advice on schooling, but was clearly told that he should forget about school, and that even TB Joshua himself was a school dropout and therefore he should not bother about school. I was shocked to hear that because l see the SCOAN and Emmanuel TV Partners giving scholarships to less privileged children, and orphans all the time!

We had a good member s of the choir but they were all removed because of their race and skin colour, and replaced by people who were their puppets and cohorts. It became ’white only’ and South African choir. I tried to find out why others who wanted to join were not given the chance, but was told it was because of their ‘accent’.

There was a time they even sent one of us as a spy to the SCOAN service very recently, to feed them with ‘information’…….utterly disturbing! . One of them even stayed as a member as the camera team but promptly left with them.

Funny and intriguing still, as they are anti SCOAN and whatever happens there, but they watch Emmanuel TV 24 hours of the day!

Part 3 will be posted on Wednesday 9th

Inner circle member of TB Joshua Watch speaks #1


In the past week we received an email from someone who claimed to be part of the inner circle of TB Joshua Watch and found it necessary to publish it as it could shed some light into the grey areas that shroud TB Joshua watch in mystery.

Please note that the opinions expressed here are purely those of the writer;
*Greg’s name has also been changed to protect his identity*

From:Greg’s
To:watchprophettbjoshua@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, 5 November, 2011 9:37:55
Subject: Re: TB Joishua lured me into following them from the ministry of “TB Joshua”

I’m filled with rank fear as I write this, knowing what it would mean if I am discovered, but I choose to do it all the same as a way to right my wrongs because my conscience hurts with each deception TB Joshua watch orchestrate and publish with my input. I perfectly understand if many would judge me and ask why i’m still with them even after realising that they’re all about lies and deceit, because they wouldn’t understand the conditions under which they deceived and coerced me to join their hateful group against my conscience, in the most serpentine manner I never thought possible, now its difficult for me to just step out as I fear what would become of me, they’ve become a gang or cult with a web of intrigues defining their operations. I know I myself pledged allegiance to them, but that was because I
thought they were out to tell the truth about TB Joshua. But now its clear to me that its otherwise and I feel remorseful that i’m betraying innocent blood. still i’m looking for just the perfect opportunity to quit that would guarantee my safety and not put me in jeopardy. I know with this post they’ll be on their guard even more. But its a risk i’m willing to take to satisfy my conscience,  So here goes the story of my Scoan beginnings and involvement with TB Joshua watch.


My Scoan beginnings and involvement with TB Joshua watch:

For nearly 5 years, I have been a committed member of The Synagogue Church of All Nations, in the UK, and I have learnt so many things during this Journey of faith. About
10 -12 months ago, my ‘trusted’ shepherds decided to leave the church, and also lured me and several others into following them from the ministry- to Join them in pursuance of their claim about the administration of the ministry and certain ‘concerns’ about the General Overseer of the ministry.

No sooner than the month I joined their campaign with a blog called TB JOSHUA WATCH did I notice that there was something sinister about their  ‘allegations’ against the ministry of which they had been part for some years. They claimed to be advocating the truth, but in
reality were making all sorts of reckless statements about the ministry, this made me feel really uneasy but I was already in, and so as not to draw attention to myself, I also followed suite.

It is quite disturbing for me that this ‘group’ who ‘decamped’ from the ministry, taking a several others with them (including me), dubbed themselves a kind of ‘watchdog’ over the ministry and instigating all sorts of absurdities, in all shades and patterns. This has
consequently proved that we should only trust God, but never trust any human being, because they can be what we call ‘Here today, Gone tomorrow trustees’. It is still very hard for me to come to terms with the stark reality, that these people who were once flag bearers of Christ under the banner of this ministry suddenly turned themselves into ‘investigative journalists and bloggers’ of disrepute, who are biting the hands and fingers that once fed and cared for them!

In the main, I do really find this issue quite disturbing, speaking as someone privy to both sides, with a clear benefit of hindsight, the de-campers were once standing to condemn the erstwhile ex- followers of the ministry, who went about blackmailing the same ministry.
The main contention here and their ultimate aim is still unclear to me, perhaps I’ll uncover this in the long run, but one thing is sure that the Truth is constant, no matter for how long the adversaries toil day and night, if it is all for selfish, classic and material reasons, they will surely come to nought. Beware, what saddens me more is that there are several others like me, deceived into such a “judas ministry”.

I do implore readers to discountenance the and disregard the comments and postings on this TB JOSHUA WATCH blog, because it is disgracefully short of taste and integrity, lacks credibility on all fronts, and should really engage themselves in building the society for Christ rather than acting and colluding with the ‘children of perdition’ to sabotage His works. The wise takes a hint and acts on it !

[Note from the editor: A point worthy of note here in Greg’s story is that he is communicating the identity of  the main authors of TB Joshua watch as one time evangelists at the Scoan uk. While we are yet to explicitly declare them as the people behind TB Joshua watch till we have unmistakable proof.

We intend to continue our investigations on these opinions alongside
other issues and keep you updated.

PART 2 OF Greg’s story will be posted tomorrow 8th November 2011.

TB Joshua Watch Mask Themselves As Advocates of The Truth…….


TB Joshua’s critics mask themselves as advocates of the truth, but the undisputed fact remains that there’s a world of       difference

TB Joshua Watch Mask Themselves As Advocates of The Truth…….

between unveiling the truth and instinctive fault finding, and TB Joshua watch are on the prowl for the latter like the biblical proverbial lion seeking whom to devour. Fault finding has now become their perceived ministry and the pattern of thinking in which their minds are formed. In the previous section of this post we raised several glaring similarities between TB Joshua watch and the Pharisees in Jesus day and showed that there was clearly no difference between them, we promised to continue in subsequent post with the scriptural reasons for our belief about TB Joshua watch as a Pharisees sect. What makes such pharisical spirit so dangerous is that it disguises itself as a form of enlightenment.

This is what Jesus meant when he said “if the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness (Matt 6:23)

The darkness is great because the bearer is deluded into thinking it is light.

So How does TB Joshua watch fulfil this criteria?

TB Joshua watch describe their site as a platform: “looking for the truth about TB Joshua and SCOAN”

But rebuking a prophet is their perceived ministry (Luke 19:39)

Fault finding with him is their perceived ministry (Matt7:2)

Publicly exposing his alleged weaknesses is their perceived ministry (John 8:6)

So here’s a summary of their pharisical identification marks and how TB Joshua watch alongside TB Joshua’s critics fulfil all the criteria:

1. They are often doctrinally correct, hence are dangerous. (Acts 23:8)

TB Joshua watch say many things in concurrence with the scriptures, but does that validate their purpose? The bible speaks in Matt 4 of Satan quoting scriptures to Jesus, but in an attempt to tempt him.

2. They love tradition (Matt. 15:1-2; Mark 7:3-5)

TB Joshua watch have come against TB Joshua’s ministry partly because he doesn’t follow traditional Christian norms, but they forget that Jesus himself was a non conformist to a lot of the traditional Judean beliefs of his day, an example being the Sabbath, which they enforced so much that man became a slave to it.
A few quotes:

Someone somewhere says:  PERMALINK
July 13, 2011 at 10:57 am
absolutely correct. First time I’ve ever heard of the Word = the bread (communion). I think this ignores 2000 years of Christian tradition in which the bread = Jesus’ body.

Someone Somewhere PERMALINK

July 14, 2011 8:05 pm

I’m sure that most of the people on this site would consider themselves to be born again Christians. It seems like the theology you adhere to is far removed from generally accepted theology.

3. They’re always poised to investigating healing!

The book of John 9 captures a situation where the Pharisees investigate the healing of a man born blind because they never believed the healing to be true, this is one of the open challenges made by TB Joshua watch, to allow for independent investigations of healings that happen in Scoan, a quote:

Hardaker believes that this is not evidence enough. “There needs to be truly free and independent scrutiny from a group of trustworthy and impartial researchers who have access to all participants. They must have the liberty to report all findings both negative and positive. This will then get somewhere near to assessing veracity.”

Nanardi says:  PERMALINK
September 1, 2011 at 9:36 am
…There is still no proof of evidence by an independent organization that those “Works” you mention are of the Holy Spirit.

Even in the face of overwhelming evidence contrary to their views, countless testimonies and live healing and deliverance broadcasts they refuse to believe.

4. They attribute true works of God, to the devil. (Matt. 9:34; 12:24)

Satan is a destroyer, sicknesses diseases and the likes are his products but TB Joshua’s critics seem to believe that Satan has turned to a repairer and restorer of life and hence attribute the miraculous healings and deliverances to other gods and principalities a quote from one of the ex-disciple attesting to this from their site reads:

I don’t believe they are “prophecies” at all, but divination, which is seeing into the future via the occult. Christians are not the only ones who can tell the future. Witch doctors, fortune tellers, they all can as well.

Giles says:  permalink
may 23, 2011 at 10:22 am
hi Jens you may have read some of my posts on this site (I was one of the ex disciples who left) in reply to your queries about the prophecy, I think it’s a mixture of  divination (occult) and basic trickery…. this is divination- the occultic practise of glimpsing into the future – but its hidden by a big propaganda machine selling it as biblical prophecy.

5. They are poised to testing a prophet in order to catch him in his words: Mark 12:13

TB Joshua’s critics would do anything just to find a fault with him, even to the extent of testing him: a visitor to their site declared to them his intention of visiting Scoan and their response to him was a test question aimed at either TB Joshua or his disciples: here is the quote below:

Giles PERMALINK

July 19, 2011 1:07 pm

Hi very

Well my advice would be to have nothing to do with them…but I don’t think your hubbie would be convinced with that. All I can ask is that if he does go, ask if tb Joshua sins…make sure he gets a straight yes or no. No explanations, no theological discussions, no quotable quotes. Just yes or no.

It is clear that this is not a question asked for the sake of enlightenment or learning, but one poised as a trap much like the Pharisees did to Jesus.

6. They are worldly wise and perceptive. (Matt. 21:45)

This is a point we’ve proven here under the topic post that discussed their pharisee chronicle, the serpentine manner with which they subtly criticize and condemn him is typical of them so as not to appear satanic in the public’s eye.

7. They do what they can to stop people from being saved. (Matt. 23:13)

TB Joshua’s critics are not dumb enough of course say this out loud, neither did the Pharisees in Jesus day, but  action inadvertently does speaks louder than words, let’s examine the evidence proving this point:

“Discouraging the sick from going to Scoan for healing”

A quote response to gretta who indicated a desire to visit SCOAN from Ian and ex-disciple Giles:

Giles PERMALINK

October 1, 2011 7:30 pm

I would strongly urge you not to go to something I KNOW is a cult.

Ian PERMALINK*

July 19, 2011 5:20 am

My advice is to get your husband to read the above article and others on this site, and try to convince him not to go.

Another critic:

Claire PERMALINK

October 6, 2011 2:50 pm

Hi Gretta. If you are hungry for God, don’t spend money going to Nigeria…Yes, God is in Nigeria, but he is also in your heart. You won’t hear him any better in Nigeria than you can at home.

(When a commenter asked if people like Apostle Paul were no longer needed in the world, this critic gave an appalling answer)

Jenson PERMALINK

October 5, 2011 6:42 am

Hey Someone…

…Now to rephrase my question again…. Name a Paul of our day? Or would you say that people like that is no longer needed?

Someone Somewhere PERMALINK

October 5, 2011 1:05 pm

” …Absolutely, unequivocally, YES! We don’t need them…”

 Ex-disciple Giles also replied with the same shocking answer:

Giles PERMALINK

October 5, 2011 7:11 am

Jenson, we do not need “big names” like Benny hinn or tb Joshua- ppl who SCOAN would dub as “the Paul of our day”

Discouraging the afflicted from ministering the anointed water- a point they explicitly stated when they said:

The water is a way of spreading TB Joshua’s anointing, so if it is truly Christ who is the healer, throw away the anointing water!

Discouraging people from watching Emmanuel TV, by tagging Emmanuel TV in all its transparency as a propaganda channel. A quote:

Giles says: PERMALINK
May 25, 2011 at 10:10 am
…It’s true that if you watch EmTV you’ll see success story after success story. But that’s all you’ll see. This is how propaganda works… It’s why I call EmTV their propaganda station. I understand if you prolly won’t be persuaded to come over to the dark side (mwooo ha ha ha ha).

On works of charity, one of their site administrators, Ianmcaught, suggested that no more charity works should be done in SCOAN on the basis of financial accountability.  A Quote:

Ian says: PERMALINK
May 31, 2011 at 8:51 am
“… Asking who SCOAN is financially accountable to is a very important question, if the answer is “don’t know” or “no one”, then stop giving!

If this is not a way of preventing people from being saved, we don’t know what it is!

8. They emphasize externals while neglecting Internals. (Luke 11:42)

TB Joshua’s critics have often mocked him, his command of English language, his dressing and accent while giving no consideration to inner character: a few quotes:

Gretta PERMALINK

October 7, 2011 9:00 am

“….Look at new site of SCOAN now. More and more bigger pictures, better collar, better tie knots, better juckets,  better shoes, pictures improved and polish by photoshops, but where is Jesus. Is Jesus bigger or more ond more small in appearance? Where is humility? John the Baptist the prophet did he wears in the Bible soft and elegance clothing. Prophet Elisha and Elijah with camel skin clothes?”

9.  They aggressively pursue and provoke the servants of God. (Luke 11:53)

giles says: PERMALINK

September 6, 2011 at 9:22pm

I know exactly what i think of him. He’s a fraud, a phoney who promotes himself on the TB Joshua Show, which is privately owned- by him.

While they may subtly persecute TB Joshua so as not to appear evil before the world, The swiftness with which they use every available instrument to attack, such as the misquoted BBC report, shows an aggresive pursuance with Some of their statements being most provoking as any Scoan supporter who has visited their site would notice as the first commenter under their current post lamented:

lilian Muzondo says: PERMALINK

October 18, 2011 at 2:11 pm

Why do you hate TB Joshua? Your accusations are baseless please dont post me this staff again, I dont believe your lies, ok.

If the supporters are this provoked we can only imagine how the prophet being spoken of would feel himself.

10. They are an arrogant, reviling, unteachable, self righteous, and spiritually blind bunch. (John 9:28-34)

All these are evident in their posts, they feel righteous enough to judge TB Joshua, and are unteachable, a few quotes:

ian says: PERMALINK

July 20, 2011 at 10:23 am

“…I should probably be up front with you and tell you that I can 100% guarantee you that nothing you say will change my mind on TB Joshua, if you think otherwise you are wasting your time.

Nanardi PERMALINK

August 22, 2011 11:17 am

@ Soe,

“I am 100% sure that you don’t have any spiritual comparison before you entered in this mess or spiritual arena.

… Hell will first freeze before I would accept anything from you…”

Cornelius PERMALINK

August 1, 2011 12:53 am

Why do u call your blog tbjoshuawatch yet it is clear that u are not watching anything (in the spirit i mean) i see someone here talking of a sign frm a movie which i assume to be satanic judging frm wat he is sayin regards to the medallion. Now u that watches such things u come out to judgeTB coz u say parts of the movies medallion looks ‘like’ wat you saw on the annointing water package is that how u discern, so the next time apreacher puts on an all black garment he wil be in trouble with u people coz u wil associate the colour of his clothes with darkness… Im writing you frm Zimbabwe

 

These are Just about half the pharisical character TB Joshua watch have displayed so far, in subsequent posts we shall bring you the rest as they themselves have shown with their very words.

Ex-Disciples Forms a Bloc Against TB Joshua; – The Price of Mentorship or Nemesis?


We at Watch Prophet TB Joshua believe that the first to present his case will always seem right until  another comes and questions him. It is patience in asking the right questions that will force either probity or deception to reveal itself where present. But whether true or false, what we stoutly represent is a refusal to accept a one sided story like other partisan sites and whatever stance you may have taken on this controversial prophet, either as a supporter or critic, it still remains unequivocally clear that most of the stories circulating the internet that are mitigating against this prophet at most came from those who were once his ardent front-line followers, aside from raising a red-flag by giving quite some weight to their testimonies, and being a bothersome thorn in the flesh of pro-Scoan folks, it also further demystifies the personality of TB Joshua In the context of him still having an increasing local and international follower-ship even with just about enough defaming material to quickly set people on their heels away from him. A quick search on Google will reveal various testimonies by these ex-disciples of TB Joshua’s ministry, putting forward quite vehemently, debasing claims of sexual abuse and ill- treatment allegedly suffered at his hands, and this was well complemented with further questions in animosity of the legitimacy of the very miracles that seemed to have prompted them to follow TB Joshua in the first place. We at watchprophettbjoshua  would never have contested the “truthfulness” of these allegations if the word “betrayal” never existed, that is, the possibility of all these claims of abuse being falsified and untrue just as some others hold that it is true, is what qualifies it as a debatable issue, for at least those who have never lived within the Scoan premises.

It is however quite surprising that we hardly ever hear stories like this about other ministers or pastors, and the reason most likely, as our findings report is his peculiar style of training followers as disciples, different from the modern conventional methods. Quite a number of ministries have a former school for disciples who desire to be trained for ministerial work, with a process for enrollment, tuition for training, a well defined course outline in discipleship training and finally a certificate issued proving that they met the required standards during their training, but TB Joshua’s methods seem very far from this in a peculiar sort of way, apart from having his imposing edifice at the SCOAN, Lagos Nigeria receiving and playing host to thousands of pilgrims from across the world, it also houses men and women from different countries, of different ages and works of Life who have left their countries, homes, Jobs and others to follow this man as disciples, with him bearing the full responsibility for their upkeep. The prophet Himself is said to live in the same compound with his disciples and in an interview with Evelyn Joshua, TB Joshua’s wife – they are there for an indefinite period of time, in her words she said “its a lifelong training” now we know that the implications of this would be at first unprecedented, but now the results are definitely crystallizing out clearly – with all the defaming allegations circumventing the internet as well as the advent of the “wise men” who seem to be the evidence of those who have being fully trained.

Having lived with the prophet for years, a lot of these disciples would definitely know more about the inner workings of the ministry, so without asking questions and getting a different account from other ex-disciples, the populace would have no choice but to believe them, without getting to hear the other side of the story  – So the purpose of this post is to bring into debate the allegations made against TB Joshua by certain ex-disciples, of which several similar ones exist, carefully considering their possibility of occurrence whilst subjecting them to sound reasoning and if possible come to a logical conclusion.

The first we shall consider with an excerpt from an anti-scoan website  is “The story of Emma“,  A Scoan ex-disciple who had supposedly dedicated ten years of her Life to Scoan,  her claim of  abuse and ill treatment is stated below.

I’m very grateful to have found this site. I personally have been affected by TB Joshua and the SCOAN in a most negative way. I’m eternally grateful to Jesus for giving me a second chance when I was so deeply deceived. Since leaving SCOAN I have discovered a completely different side to God – an intimate relationship with Him with no human mediator, and total forgiveness without your past mistakes being used to break you down.
I plan on sharing my 10 year experience of being a disciple in increments as I have the strength to do so. I prefer to do it anonymously for my own safety and that of my family. I left about a year ago and am still coming to grips with the reality that SCOAN was a cult. It was a big shock when I realised that what I’d given my life to and built my future upon is nothing but a cult. I was horrified to find that the isolated communal lifestyle, denial of privacy, late night meetings, sleep deprivation, reporting, character breaking disciple meetings and so on, occur in most cults and have nothing to do with the Holy Spirit’s leading of TB Joshua as I once believed. I read about cults like Mormonism, Jehovah’s witness, Scientology, The twelve tribes, Indian guru cults, etc and saw striking similarities. They also record your confession and use it to silence you should you later leave like what happened to Bisola Johnson in Beware of Blasphemers. They also encourage that you sell your possessions and give it to their leaders, live in community and give all decision making authority to the leader. They also have meetings of character assassination, ie, monitoring, reporting and correction as SCOAN calls it. They also live in “compounds”, communal living where access to information is controlled, the leader’s videos / teachings are continually played to you and a false reality “euphoria” is created with no opportunity to question.
The hardest thing for me to come to terms with is the fact that I may never see my loved ones (brothers and sisters as they’re called in SCOAN) again. I sometimes feel guilty as I “move on with my life”, that I’m leaving so many sincere, but sincerely deceived people behind and it seems as if there is not much I can do to open their eyes. Since I had completely cut off from my family and friends – it now seems very strange to reconnect with them after 10 long years. So many things have changed but in some ways, I am exactly where I started before I joined SCOAN – I have no qualifications, no job reference, no proof of what I’ve done with my life. I’m only beginning to see the effects of many years of sexual and emotional abuse I received from TB Joshua. But I am determined more than ever to trust in God alone, deal with my past in His strength and become what He made me to be.

For the anti-scoan folks who subscribe to her story, what are your strong reasons for believing what you never witnessed about  a Prophet of renown?

And for the pro -Scoan folks why would you refuse to believe her story?, what in your opinion could she possibly gain by lying?

Love to hear your thoughts in the comments…!